Episode 241: Soul Chats with Dr. Q

Hey, Amy Robeson here. Thank you for joining me on this podcast where we talk about spirituality, the awakening process, mental health, and so much more. Join me weekly to get your weekly dose of spirituality and medicine. I look forward to seeing you on the inside. Hello, everyone, and welcome to today’s podcast. I’m so excited for this SoulChat interview that I’m going to share with you here shortly. And this SoulChat interview is a near and dear topic to my heart because it is life-changing, life-changing. I’m going to be interviewing Dr. Q. And in this interview, he’s going to share all sorts of different things about the Indian palm leaf readings, what they are, why they’re important, his own journey journey with them. And before we jump in, I want to share a little bit about my journey with this. Back in 2019, I was traveling to Ireland, and I was playing inside of the Akashic Records. And when I was playing inside the Akashic Records, they told me about an Indian library. And in this Indian library, I would get answers to some questions that my soul was desiring to have. It wasn’t until I met Dr. Q that I knew what they were talking about.

I didn’t meet Dr. Q until 2024. It took me five years to actually understand what the guardians of the Akashic Records were talking about. It’s funny because he wasn’t even on my radar. I met Dr. Q at the Conscious Life Expo in LA in 2024. My assistant was actually the one that introduced me to him because she was like, Hey, you need to go learn about this palm leaf reading. I’m like, Palm leaf reading? What are you talking about? And she goes, You just need to hear about it. And the second Dr. Q started explaining to me what it was and how they access the Akashic records, I could see what the guardians were talking about in 2019 and why it was so important for me to get a reading. I got a reading from his institute, and it was life-changing. Not only did they share information with me about my mom, my biological dad, my husband, my sister, my daughter. They shared about karma and where my soul was going and the type of work that I was doing. Also, at the time, I had just experienced a big financial burden. And so that even came up in the reading as well and how to overcome it.

And I thought it was absolutely incredible. Also talks about health, talks about relationships, talks about karma. And it’s one of those things where I personally think it’s something if your soul is calling you to do it, it will show up right at the right time. When you’re meant to receive that reading, because you might hear about it, but you don’t take action on it, or there’s a really long waiting list to actually receive the reading, when you hear about it, and then when you actually get to receive the reading, it is in divine timing. It’s on divine order with your divine plan in your aligned path. The cool part, and Dr. Q will talk about this in the interview is the Maharashi prayed to Lord Shiva thousands and thousands of years ago and made predictions. And I don’t like using that word because it’s all in divine order, and it’s to be of service and to be of assistance, and it’s up to you on how you want to use the information. But they made these predictions, these assisted readings for a certain amount of souls. And they knew that when you wanted to receive a reading, that you would receive it in divine timing.

And the information that’s in the reading, and I’m a reader, I’m shocked by it. I’m so impressed by it, and I had to share it. And I’ve been asking for Dr. Q to come on and share his wisdom for quite some time. And so I’m really excited for you to hear more about the Palm Leap readings and about his institute and about his journey because it’s incredible. It is a history lesson that I think is really amazing. Another thing I want to share before we hop into the interview is I’ve always been connected in some way, shape, or form to Indian history in some way. When I first started my path, my path was guided to do yoga, and that’s where it started. And then once I started doing that, I wanted to learn how to meditate. And that led me to my first teacher, which then led me to my second teacher. And my second teacher was very, very, very into the Hindu gods and goddesses, into Ayurveda, into the Vedas, into yoga. And this is where my love for the beautiful Indian Hindu gods and goddesses are. And I want to emphasize that when I met my second teacher, it was to do Reiki.

And the first time, I’ve never Reiki before. And when I did this attunement, I ended up receiving guidance and connection to Lord Shiva. I’ve never met him before. My teacher never talked to me about him. When I was getting my attunement, I met him. And so when I did this Indian palm leaf reading, And I heard that the Maharashi prayed to Lordiva, it brought so many things that I experienced throughout my lifetime together. And you might be going, Amy, I’m not into Hindu gods or goddesses, or I’m not connected to yoga in any way, shape, or form. That’s okay, too. Because wherever your path is, there’s a reason why you’re going to be listening or watching this episode. And it doesn’t matter if you’re connected to those things or not. There’s a message in here for you, and there’s some history that’s wanting to be understood, our seeds are being planted today for you. Whatever the case is, if you’re being guided to receive an Indian palm leaf reading from Dr. Q’s Institute, you can click the links in the show notes in the show descriptions. If you’re just wanting to learn more about it and read more about it, you can also check out his website.

He also has a YouTube channel as well. We’ll share that towards the end of the episode, but I wanted to… I’m really excited for you to meet Dr. Q and to dive into this SoulChat interview together. So let’s jump in. Hi, Dr. Q. How are you?

Hello, hello. And most lovely good evening from Europe. Thank you so much for having me on your show. I’m very excited to share. The little that I know about Nadishastra or Indian palm tree ding.

I love that you said little that I know because you know a lot. However, it’s an endless possibilities of what you can discover on what was revealed many, many thousands of years ago that we’re looking at now, right?

Yes.

Tell everybody what you do and what Indian palm leaf readings are.

Okay, so first of all, in case you haven’t noticed, I’m a white guy. I’m not Indian, and yet I do something that is intrinsically connected to Southern India in particular. I do not know if your awakening tribe has been to India or not, but it is a big, big country, and it has one unifying language language, apart from English, that would be Hindi. The state that this comes from is Tamil Nadu. Tamil Nadu is the Southernmost state of India. Kind of like California being on the West Coast of the United States, Tamil Nadu is on the East Coast, the Southernmost tip of India. It’s also elongated, and they’re Tamil people. Tamals, they’re 85 million Tamils. They live in one state alone, so it’s twice the size of California, if you wish. And they speak their own language. That’s the only state in India that does not speak the common language called Hindi. So even an Indian visiting Tamil Nadu is a foreigner. They would have to revert back to English or Hinglish, Indian English, to be able to communicate. So whoever visits Tamil Nadu, that’s the core land of India. Tamals are very proud to say that that’s most likely the beginning of Indian culture, and the rest came later.

So how come a white guy, simple The whole guy from the West, ended up doing this? I, like most of you, have gone through challenging times, and my biggest challenge in life has always been health. I’ve spent more time in hospital than almost anyone that I know. I’m talking months and months and months over many, many years. That’s on one hand a good thing because it put me on the trajectory, me trying to explore what does not meet the eye. It put me on my spiritual trajectory. That’s a good thing. The bad thing is, if you wish, the challenging part is I suffered a lot. My mom’s Austrian. She’s blonde and blue-eyed, as beautiful as you are, Amy. My dad is Persian. I grew up in Iran when the country was not yet so screwed up as it is today. My father is Baháʼí. He’s not Muslim. Baháʼí is a minority religion. When When the revolution happened, some of you might be mature enough to remember, in 1979, there was a revolution, the Islamic Revolution, that caused mayhem to not only Iran itself, but the world, and we’ve been suffering from it ever since. We had to flee the country, period.

That was in August of 1979. Yours truly, me, was raised with a golden spoon in his mouth because my dad was very wealthy, but overnight, we became paupers because he acted too late when the revolution happened, and we just had I had two suitcases and went to flee the country, August 29, 1979. We ended up in Austria because my mom’s Austrian, and my youth was spent in that country. So I do know how it feels to be very wealthy with chauffeurs and nannies and all the rest of it, but I also do know how it feels to be a refugee and have no money at all. We are all cramped into one small apartment, and my mom became the breadwinner, and she did a magnificent job, and I love her for that even more. We’re very, very close, even today, and I’m very grateful that she’s alive. In 1986, so I do a little bit of a jump, I’m telling you all this so you understand that I can relate to you. I really can. When I did my healing, health coaching, education, the teacher kept saying, Only a wounded healer is a good healer because he can relate to the people that he tries to help.

Trust me, I’m very wounded. In 1986, a little time jump, the biggest a nuclear catastrophe in the world’s history happened, known as Ternogel. That was in April of 1986, and at the time, I lived in Vienna, Austria, which is the capital city of Austria. The nuclear cloud traveled 1,500 miles and dumped its nuclear waste over Central Europe, and Austria is in Central Europe. And as a result, yours truly got cancer. I was in hospital for three years, six months as an inpatient, so a very long time. A thousand needles up my veins, surgeries, chemotherapy, radiotherapy, radiation therapy, you name it, the whole nine yards. So at 16, when I was admitted to hospital, I said, God, why me? I mean, I’m a kid. I haven’t really done anything. And yet I’ve already survived the revolution where they shot at us, went to hides, to be able to get out of the country, and now I got cancer. I saw people die in my room. I was in a cancer ward in oncology, hematology. But three years later, when I was 19, my head physician that looked after me, who is now like a second mom to me, she said, You’re good to go.

You’re in remission now. That’s the same time when I said, God, why me? I mean, how come I survived? Many of the poor souls that I shared the hospital for three years with did not. That was the beginning of me wondering if there is something out there that does not meet the eye. I realized already at a very tender age that there indeed is and that everything, reality, time, I don’t know, however What I’m going to call all the big blob out there that we perceive as reality happens in here. That is when I started my spiritual journey and started digging and going deeper down the rabbit hole. Little did I know at that time that the deeper you dig, the bigger the rabbit hole gets. There is no end to it.

It’s far and wide.

It’s far and wide and there is no end to it. And you’re like, Oh, my God. Would I have started the journey had I known that there would be no end? Yes, No, I do not know. But anyway, so here I am. I pursued, of course, also a regular career because I had to do that. Had I not had cancer, I most likely would today be a physician because I come from a physician’s family. Almost everyone in my family is a physician. But three years in the hospital as a teenager taught me to not voluntarily set foot in a hospital ever again. So that was a no-go for me. So I became an academic. So Dr. Q is not the stage name, really. It was bestowed upon me by my friends and students when I got my PhD as an academic. I ended up being an academic at the university, also to realize that all the red tape that goes behind the scenes which is unnoticed to everyone who goes to university, is mind-numming. At the tender age of 29, I was already a doctor at the time, I said, You know what? Not for me.

I don’t want to waste my time. Because 80% really is red tape, and it’s just not for me. 20% of it, teaching the kids, I mean, the future adults of society, was very rewarding, but it was not big enough of a chunk for me to continue. So turned my hobby into my profession and started a travel business. I’ve been in travel since teenage years. I’ve traveled more than 100 countries. I’ve been almost everywhere I can possibly think of. Amy knows me a little bit, so if you know that I constantly travel, I’m on the road. In the meantime, of course, I continued digging deeper and deeper into this rabbit hole. I did. I spent time with chamans in the Amazon, tried all sorts of shamanic medicine, if you know what I mean, and did Vipashina, Salam Meditation. I did Reiki healing. I did, I don’t know, Akeshik Records. I did a role thing. God knows. I did it all. Group therapy, individual psychotherapy. I just wanted to know what’s hidden behind the veil that I cannot see, and yet I know it exists. In 2013, I caught a virus which almost killed me, and I wasn’t aware of that either.

At that time, I’d met my girl in Hungary. I moved to Hungary, and I’m talking to you from Budapest, capital city of Hungary, which is just next door to Vienna, Austria. I used to live in the US, by the way. My travel business was in the US and everything, and then I moved here. You met Emmery Sztu at the Expo. I came here, and as you know, I’m pretty fit, very fit, Actually, because of my sickness or sickliness, I tried to be fit and do a lot of sports to maintain a healthy body and mind. I caught a virus and we went jogging, Meche and I, I couldn’t keep up with her at all. I was sweating, huffing, puffing, and she said, This doesn’t look good at all. Then I developed a high fever that night. She said, Look, this doesn’t look good. I’m going to put you on a train and send you back to Vienna, which is only three hours away, and you go and get checked at your cancer hospital. I said, Okay, so 7: 00, I’m in the train, go there, already have fever, chills. I walk into my hospital. If I say my hospital, I mean it in a very endearing way because everyone knows me.

I spent a long time in that hospital. When I go there, of course, they know me. Of course, I know everyone, all the nurses and all the physicians, everyone. I got VIP treatment, if you wish. They said, Oh, my God, Dr. Q, what’s going on? I said, I just do not feel too good. My girlfriend I need to come and get checked out. I said, Sure. They checked me out. They sent me to the cardiology department, and the head of cardiology checks me and says, Oh, my God, that you’re alive is a miracle. I said, What? Yeah, you have myocarditis, he said, and you got water in your heart, you got pneumonia, water in your lungs, you are the Lord. That you can walk is a miracle. I was like, Really? In three days after a flight to Frankfurt, can I do that? I remember him shouting into my ear. He said, Dr. Moyt, I don’t think you understand. You are very, very sick. That you’re alive is very lucky. So he said, You have to stay here. That’s it. I stayed, and that night I collapsed. So in reality, Meshi, my friend, whom you know, she saved my life.

Has she not put me on a train, me going to that hospital, collapsing that day, I might not be here today at all. I’m in hospital and it was so bad. I reached 107, 8 Fahrenheit. Don’t shoot me. Celsius is 42 Centegrees. Huge. You’re in a delirious state. You do not know if it’s morning, evening, Wednesday, Sunday, whatever. I sweated four or five liters of sweat. And they shoved me into the ICU. I was in the ICU for quite a time, quite some time. And they told my mom, either he survives or he doesn’t. There is not much we can do about it. All we can do is sedate him, pump him up full with antibiotics. It’s a virus, so antibiotics don’t really help, but it helps with the mayhem, the side mayhem of the virus. Then after a month, I was released. As they shoved me into the ICU, I said, God, why the hell me? I don’t understand this. I don’t. While I was in the ICU, my girlfriend came, and she washed me. Very humbling experience. I’m telling you, I could not move at all. I could not move. She washed me.

Then I said, Meche, I have no idea why this happens to me all the time. She said, It might be karma. Might be karma. Because I think this I’m a pretty nice guy. Really, I’m not after money. I don’t want to own anything. I’m here to help people. And she said, She heard about what we now call an empowerment meeting because she heard you can clean your car around doing this. I said, Wow, Sign me up. She said, Actually, I told you about this a year ago already. I said, No way you did. She said, Yeah, I told you about it. And now that I’d shared a little bit about me, myself with you, I’m a sucker for anything spiritual, really. You tell me, I’ll do it. That I did not hear what you told me was like an awakening. Now I realize either you’re ready to hear it or you’re not. It’s as simple as that. Either it sinks in or it doesn’t. Second time around, I was ready to hear it, and I said, You know what, Mashi, if I survive, if I come out of here, then I’m going to go and get a reading.

Obviously, I survived it. I would be here today. That month in hospital left me with a gift, too, eternal stiffness. Incurable. I have chronic fasciitis I have now. If you do not know what it is, it’s the fascii or the nets around your bones and muscles, and there’s lubrication between so you can move your body. I was stiff as a board. It took me six years. Super painful therapies to crack me open because my brother, who is, of course, a physician, too, he said, and he’s an orthopedic surgeon like me, he’s a brother, he said, either we somehow crack you open or you’ll be stiff for the rest of your life like you’re a cripple. You cannot move at all, or we have to cut you open every single fasci ICA, and you’ll have 10,000 surgeries coming up. So I said, No, not a good option. So I opted for 1,000 hours. Of course, at the time, I did not know it would take me a thousand hours of very painful any type of therapy to It cracked me open. Now I can move again. It’s all good. But do I have still pain and stiffness?

Yes. Can you see it on my face? No, you cannot because it’s all in my mind. I don’t allow it to ruin me. I also don’t take any painkillers. Otherwise, I will be addicted to painkillers. That’s guaranteed eat. So here I am. I tried to be a role model and inspire everyone because if I can do it and I’m just an average guy, then you can do it, too. It’s as simple as that. So I had a reading. And the reading, and the reading obviously blew my mind. It was, wow, I I didn’t believe what I was hearing. And in a by sentence, the reader, the Indian guy said, Oh, and by the way, you’re going to bring this to the West. I was like, What? I’m a white guy. Look at me. I have nothing to do with India. I love Indian food. I love spicy food, and I do yoga, of course, for decades, and meditation, and all the rest of it, but I have no connection apart from me traveling and enjoying certain Indian things at all with India. It went in one ear and out the other, really. I did not there, get a reading to bring this to the West.

I just wanted to get my karma cleaned so that I would not end up in hospital again. And yet, as enthusiastic a person as I am, I shared my experience with everyone that I knew. I said, Oh, my God, you have no idea what’s going on in India. It’s called Nadi Jyotish, Nadi Shastra. These are the words that they use, and I realized they have no clue what it means. So I created the term Indian palm leaf reading. Now I’m answering the question that we started off this conversation with, how come I call it Indian palm leaf reading? I tried to give it a literal meaning. So people, hopefully, when they hear it, they can connect it to India because it’s Indian, palm leaf. Hopefully, they don’t say tea leaf or ask me to read their palm, and yet still, trust me, I get messages left, right, center, tea leaf reading, can you read my palm? The only answer they get from me is like, Dude, read what I do, and then send me an email. And reading that it’s some a reading. That is why we call it Indian palm leaf reading. But in India, of course, no one calls it Indian palm leaf reading.

The best term to use would be Nadi Shastra. Nadi has many meanings. Nadi means pulse, for example. I’m a yoga teacher, too, so they use nadis in yoga as well. Energetic streams in your body. So representing life. It means leaf. It means seeker. That’s the person who seeks the information on the leaf, so Indian palm leaf reading. But it also means the exact moment in time when the message is divulged to the seeker, not a day before, not a day later. So that is the perfect nadi. That’s the time in space where the message reaches the seeker. The rest is history. I shared my story with everyone. They wanted to get a reading, and I said, Okay, let’s go to India. That is when I realized that for most Western people, India is a no-go zone. For some Western people, it’s a magnet. They go to ashrams and they travel through India and spend some time there. But in reality, and I’m in tourism, I’ve been almost everywhere, to most Western people, India is a no-go zone. They’re scared of it. The food’s too spicy, I don’t know. The weather’s too hot. It’s a lot of poverty, too.

If you have never been to India, it is It’s not easy to be in India, really, for a Western person. And so I then thought, okay, if they don’t want to go to India, maybe we can do it online. So I asked around, and the very first readings, we did over Skype. And now, Skype doesn’t even exist anymore. I don’t know if you know or not.

Oh, I used to use Skype.

They shut down Skype. It’s finished.

It doesn’t exist anymore. That’s good. It never worked.

Anyway, so just telling you how things evolved in the old days. And I was sitting in every reading with friends and family because I also realized if they don’t have a guide, like a wingman, a person like me to hold their hands and guide them through it, they’d be lost. They wouldn’t understand the Indian accent. They the Indian English or H’English in a loving way. It’s a very heavy accent, and if you’re not used to it, you don’t understand anything. I remember me in the first reading, I thought I spoke English pretty well, but Holy moly, I had to ask every sentence to be repeated three times for me to understand the interpreter, not the reader. The reader doesn’t speak in English at all, the interpreter. So I knew it would be a challenge. So I was sitting in every reading. I was helping them understand the English. And even though I didn’t have a guide like now people have in my institute, helping them understand the reading, I fundamentally understood the message because I’ve done a lot of spiritual work beforehand. So I knew right I cannot take it verbatim. It’s a guideline. There are certain things that I should take verbatim.

So all these things I somehow understood the concept of without further help. But then when I did it for other people, out of just pure good karma work, I realized, oh, wow, they take it verbatim. No one’s life is set in stone. That’s the very first thing I need to clear right away with everyone. No one’s life is set in stone, period, or written on a leaf. It cannot. If it were, then you and I and everyone else would be just puppets, and I refuse being a puppet. I believe in free will and choice. How much free will and choice we have, that’s debatable. We can talk about it in a different podcast, but I believe in it. Otherwise, there is no reason for us to be here in human form to make choices, whether good or bad, that’s a different question, to have a choice. And A reading is meant in one simple sentence to help the seeker create a better life trajectory for themselves. Better, whatever better means to you. To me, very simple. No more tubes down my throat, no more needs of my vein. Simple. To some other people, it means getting married, having children, more money, being in a meaningful job, environment, friends, move, whatever.

Better and not to be taken verbatim. It’s a guideline, it’s a compass. It can only show you the water. But you, the seeker, the one who receives the message, through your own actions and thoughts, can maneuver your ship in the direction that you want so that you can lead a better life for yourself in calmer waters, more fulfilling waters. So I was in all these readings and I realized, Holy moly, I cannot let them just talk to the Indians on their own because there will be mayhem. And since I’m the person brought them together, they will be coming back to me with 10,000 questions. So I said, in every one of them, help them understand the Indian English, help them understand the deeper meaning of a reading. I was just learning by doing, trying to make it easier for people, condensing it, making it simpler in a simpler language. And after some time, I was talking to Meshia, said, Man, I’m now helping people that I don’t even know who they are. It’s friends of friends of friends. It’s like, What the hell? I have a real job, mind you. I have a real job and I continue working still today, still doing that job.

Because what I do here and talking to you today, and I know people call me crazy. I still do this as pure good karma work. I haven’t made a single dollar doing what I’m doing with the institute. And then I said, Then I remembered what my first reader told me, because I had two readings so far. He told me, You’re going to bring this to the West. I said, Oh, my God. Not intentionally, but just me sharing my experience with people, brought them to this, and they want to get a reading. And 10 to years ago, something like that, we created an institute. So the Indian Palm Reef Reading Institute has been up and running ever since. And we’ve been coming to the Conscious Life Expo, and that’s how we met. In the early days, I met someone who referred us to the Conscious Life Expo. Then I realized, Holy Moly, the prediction, at least a suggestion, because it’s not set in stone. I could have said no to it because nobody was holding a gun against my head saying, You do this or we’re going to kill you. It just evolved, and then I embraced it, and here we are many years later.

That’s subconsciously embraced that prediction or the possibility, that’s the best way of the best word to use, I embraced it, and here we go. That is how I ended up doing what I’m doing Many, many, many years later now and thousands of readings later, who would have ever thought? Certainly not me, where we have a foundation helping the poor in India, where we support different orphanages through the readings. Everyone that comes to us to get a reading indirectly supports an orphanage in India, too. You can find all the details on our website. Why I do what I do is helping the world become a better place one reading at a time, just one reading at a time. If I may go back to these Maharishe, they wrote these leaves to help the seeker create a better life trajectory for themselves, better. If I now may go a little deeper, the rabbit hole, so people understand Absolutely.

First, I want to… With the-Yeah, of course. Maharishis, can you, which you’re probably going to address this, let everybody know when it begun and what-Of course.

Yeah. Of course, of course. This is what I bought at a temple in a town called the Vaitish Varan Koyal. For those of you who are just listening to this, but I’m watching it, I am holding up a picture of 18 Maharishe. Maharishe means great sage, Mahagreat Richie sage. There were hundreds of Maharishe who over thousands of years wrote leaves. We’re going to go deeper into that, too. But 18 of those we call them main Richies, the main Maharishe, Richies or Siddars. Depending on which lineage you go with, the names change. But for the most part, it’s the same names. The most important Maha Richie is Maha Richie, Augustia, the guy in the middle. And he’s not only a Maha Richie and one of the 18 main Richies of the world leaves, he’s also one of the Sapta Richies. You being in yoga, maybe you’ve heard of the Sapta Richies, the seven main guys of Indian mythology, and he’s one of them. His name is Maharishi Aghastiar. He’s like a GP. He wrote the most leaves. Usually, if you get your first reading, we would look for a book or bundle written by Aghastiar. Time frame, God knows, because there is no actual chronicles or written evidence.

It’s all through a word of mouth. Goes back 7,000 years, maybe, give or take. We do not know exactly. These Maharishes and the at the epicenter of Nadi Astralogy, Nadi Shasthra, Nadi Astralogy, Nadi readings, there are so many terms you can use. It’s a sub-branch of Vedic Astralogy. Vedic Astralogy, by the way, is the modern terminology for Indian Astralogy or Hindu Astralogy. But in the ’60s and ’70s when Ayurveda, because you’re an Ayurvedic practitioner, too, I guess you know that anyway, Ayurveda became hip in the West. It was like a well-kept secret from India. Then all the Western people went there, brought it back to Europe and North America. Then some smart people said, Oh, we’re going to rename Hindu astrology, which might sound too scary for the West, to Vedic astrology. They connected Indian culture with Ayurveda. Sorry, Indian astrology with Ayurveda, gave it Vedic Astralogy. Now everyone calls it Vedic Astralogy. Going back to the Vedas, and I don’t want to go too deep into Indian stuff, but the Vedas are the foundation of Indian wisdom. Hence, Ayurveda, hence, Vedic Astralogy. There were hundreds of them, hundreds of these maharishis, and the epicenter is Vaithish Varankol, and Vaithish Varankol is roughly in the center of the state called Tamil Nadu.

It’s a town, and you have also the main Hindu temple there, so you can go and visit if you want to. But of course, over the millennia, people traveled, so these leaves, bundles were taken with them. And nowadays, it’s not just in Tamil Nadu, but it’s all over India. You can also go to Delhi and find some Nadi readers. You can go to Sri Lanka because there are Tamils in Sri Lanka, too. You can go to Bali. There are some bundles there, too. I need to also be super honest and frank with you, too, because I get so many emails, Oh, I much rather do it in person there. What you get from me is, Oh, good luck. It’s very tough to share, but it’s the reality. I need to protect everyone here, too. Eighty %, the vast majority of readers, are fake. I need to be super honest with you, too. Even an Indian who goes from a different part of India, two times a night, do 80, 90%, like the The vast majority would sell you anything for a quick buck. I’m telling you, you got to be super, super cautious.

Similar issues in Peru, too, when people are doing ayahuasca.

Ayahuasca, of course, man. They sell you anything they want. I’ve been to Peru and I’ve done many, many, many, many times, too. They mix cocaine with it. They do make you, Oh, my God, it’s just crazy. It’s dangerous. It’s dangerous. What people do just to make a quick buck, it saddens me big time because I’m to the core an ethical human being. To see someone doing something sacred as this, not being as ethical, at least as me. I would presume them to be even more ethical than me. Yeah. Regretably, that’s not the case. You got to be careful. That’s the short of it. You got to be very careful. I spent a lot of time and a lot of energy to find the real ones, which is not so easy. Trust me, it isn’t. It takes a lot of effort and test readings and double check-in and triple check-in and talking to others to then know exactly if that guy is the real deal or not. It’s Vatish Varenkol and the neighboring towns, Chitambaram and so forth, even the capital city of Chennai, which has 15 million people in the state of Tamil Nadu. You can find decent ones there, but you’ve got to search for them.

They said in meditation, meditated to primarily the ultimate God in Shiva and his wife Parvati. It could also be other gods, like Vishnu or their son Ganesh or so, but primarily Shiva and Parvati. Then with their help, and you’re an Akashic records expert, into the Akashic records, downloaded the information, and then telepathically dictated the message to their disciples. Augustier himself didn’t write it. He told his disciples, and they wrote it on palm, dried palm leaves, hence Indian palm leaf reading. You got to think back again, 5,000 years ago, 2,000 years ago, people couldn’t read or write. Only the elite couldn’t read or write. There would be priests or royalty. That’s it. No one else could read or write. Two, there was no paper. There wasn’t. So the Maharishths in their great wisdom said, How can we conserve and preserve this information? What do we have in abundance in India? Gigantic palm trees with gigantic leaves. They’re different to the ones that you’re used to in the United States. I know that because I live most of my life in the US, too. So these are gigantic leaves, and they cut them into pieces of about 10 inches-ish, 10, 15 inches.

They’re not standardized, about an inch or two wide. What they did at that time, they didn’t use any ink either, or henna, or any of that. They used the sharp pencil, cut these big leaves into these stripes, and then etch the information onto a fresh leaf, which was still green. When it dried up, it became dark, the etchings came through, and that is how they preserved information in India in the old days. Incredible inspired.

It’s amazing, huh?

Not just Nadi, astronomy stuff, but also legal stuff, Ayurvedic stuff since you’re an Ayurvedic practitioner, a yogic wisdom. All of these things were preserved and written down dry palm leaves. Then the Maharishis in their eternal wisdom said, Well, nobody knows how to read or write apart from the priests and the elite. So how can we then connect a leaf to a person. Again, your thumbprint, because everyone’s thumbprint is unique. Easy. That means even today, 5,000 years later, we do the exact same process. Now I’m coming deeper and deeper into the actual thing. This I brought for the audience, which you have seen in person at the Expo. This is a prop, but in the old days, I had a physical real one, and I told people, Please don’t touch because it’s a real one. What do people do? First thing they do is they touch. I said, You know what? I cannot do that. I created a prop made out of plastic. This is a so-called Booker bundle. In a Booker bundle, there are up to 108 individual leaves. The number 108 is a very holy number in Hinduism. These are individual leaves, and these are copies of an actual bundle with actual leaves.

I’m holding this into the camera. These leaves are written in a dead language called Granta or ancient Tamil. It doesn’t exist anymore. Today, they speak in modern Tamil. Modern Tamil and ancient Tamil are like modern Greek and ancient Greek. Today’s modern Greek person doesn’t read, write, or understand ancient Greek. It’s a university degree to know ancient Greek, even though modern Greek roots in ancient Greek. Same Same thing with Tamil and Granta. It roots in it, but it has evolved. So that’s written in a dead language. Disciples, touch them together. And then they put similar souls that have the same thumbprint category type into a Booker bundle. This is a Booker bundle that means similar souls with similar life traject, because they have the same thumbprint category type. We’re going to go deeper into that, travel together in this You’re not related to them, but they are your soul sisters, soul brothers. It could be a lady from France, a gentleman from Australia. We do not know. Whether you’re male or female, there is no distinction. It’s in the same bundle because they’re written for souls. When you were conceived, that moment, it starts. How to do all that?

The process we do today in our institute is It’s the exact same process as we did 5,000 years ago. It’s a little simplified nowadays to shorten the time. But all you need to do is you submit your thumbprint, Ladies left, gentlemen right. We have a simple form I can show that. I can show you one. There you go. In our institute, that’s how we do it. It’s this Balmy Reading Institute. You put down your thumbprint, left women, right men, the country of your birth, and whether you already had a reading or not makes also a difference. I can go deeper into that if you wish as well. If you were in India, you will go to a reader’s office, sit down, it will take a thumbprint. To my friends who are listening to this, and Amy went through that with me and her friends and colleagues that she invited to get a reading, too. It’s movies. When you give your impression, they roll it. That’s Hollywood. In our case, you go down straight.

Yes.

You might remember that, too. You go down straight. No rolling. No rolling. Very bad. It’s hard enough to capture good impression. We need it today, too. We need your thumbprint impression. For a simple reason. The reader then looks at it, whether you do it through us or go to a reader’s office in India. Literally, he’s going to take out a magnifying glass. I’ve seen it many times, checks out your thumbprint and then identifies your thumbprint category type. There are 108 different category types. 108, again, spiritual number, holy number in Hinduism. Some category types are more frequent, and some of them I’ve never even come across. None of my readers has ever come across, and yet in theory, we know they exist. We know that they’re 108, but I do not know a single reader who has encountered all 108. Not even all the readers over the years that I’ve been doing this combined have come across the 108 different ones. There are some that are very frequent and some are a little less frequent. So 30, 40, 50, maybe I know, but the other 50 we haven’t discovered yet, but they do exist. So then he looks at it, and then he starts the first part of the three parts.

Exactly the same as it’s always been. Search for a book or bundle will be step one. Matching of your leaf will be step two. And step three will the reading. You start the search by submitting your thumbprint. That is the beginning of your journey. Reader identifies your thumbprint category top. He does not need to know anything else about you. So if you do it for us, of course, we know who you are because you pay for it, and my Western office knows who you are. But the Indians, the reader teams only get this. That’s it. No name, no nothing. They don’t need to know anything else. They then go on a physical search. People always say, Why can you not speed it up? Well, if I had 100 readers working for me, and if I only did that, I could cut it down, yes. But I don’t have 100 readers working for me. We only have very select and highly experienced and ethical readers. It takes time because it’s a physical search. There is no computer involved, no registry involved. It is a gut feel of the reader. These bundles are now stored in archives and libraries, for the most part, primarily in the state of Tamil Nadu.

They’re in other parts, too, but primarily that’s still the hub today. It’s not just one library where sometimes I get, Oh, can I come and visit your Dr. Q? Would you show me the library? I said, Look, my friend, there is no one library. There are thousands of them, thousands. It’s not library the way you think of a library or archive with air conditioning and water dispenser and, I don’t know, security cards. It’s hot. It’s a little holes in the wall, really. It’s a back room of somebody’s private house, maybe with a lock on it. That’s it. And there are thousands of them. I do not know how many. Nobody knows how many. And so the reader who comes usually from a reader cast, and even though cast are not officially in existence in India anymore, they’re still very much alive and kicking, usually comes from a reader cast. That means great-grandfather, father, son, grandson, it all is passed on through that. Nowadays, an outsider can become a reader, too. You find yourself a guru. Again, guru, if I may also clarify that term because it’s been misused and abused so many times the term guru.

It means teacher with original thought. It’s easy. It has many meanings, I understand. But in our case, means teacher with original thought. You find yourself a guru, and the guru teaches you from the ground up what you need to do. In the beginning, he will tell you, You now sweep the floor until I start sharing with you my knowledge. It takes years to become a real reader. These are in these archives, and the reader then either has his own archive, of course, they should, because if you come from a reader, dynasty, and caste, you have your own set of bundles, a few hundred, 200, 500. If it’s super big, maybe a thousand, but that’s already super big. But then it might not be amongst their set of bundles. So they will go to the neighboring reader and say, Hey, can I check your archive and see if you have a bundle that matches this thumbprint category type? And he checks, Oh, it doesn’t. Okay, then I go to the next one, to the next one. If all his neighbors don’t have it, he hops on a bicycle and rides half an hour to the next village.

If there is none of that, he hops on his moped and goes to one that’s an hour or two away. If it’s too much, then, of course, nowadays we use modern technology, too. He would use a cell phone and say, Hey, my friend, it’s five hours away, but I think, remember, you have one of those bundles that matches this thumb in category type. It’s a physical act and it takes time. If everything goes well, of course, it will be one day. He goes into his own I have looks, Oh, found it. Beautiful. Lucky you. Does it happen too often? No, it doesn’t. Hence, in our case, you got to be patient and all good things come to those who wait. At the moment, and we can We can reduce it. Yes, we can, but we have been bombarded, and Amy knows that. We’ve been bombarded with the reading request. Once we start the search, and I can go into that a little later. Once we start the search for this, that means you’ve been put on our active list from the waitlist, which is very, very long. The search time is still 3-5, 3-6 months.

So from the moment we say, Amy, congratulations, we’ve moved you from the waitlist to the active list, and we will start the search today, you still have to be patient. Every search time is 3-6 months from today’s point of view. And from today’s point of view, it’s 6-24 months on the waitlist to be put on our active list.

And it’s worth the wait. It’s totally worth the wait. I have a question before you finish. With the additional readers that have the bundles, the different libraries, do they get along? Do they share with one another easily? Because I was wondering, well, if they’re so far apart, how does that work? And how does one obtain the libraries? Is it just passed down from the family, the reader, to the next reader? Okay, cool.

Oh, yeah. They hold on to it like a treasure. This is what I inherited. It’s my family’s-It’s an honor to have something like that. It’s their livelihood, too. Of course it is. And if they’re friends, they share easily, of course, but it’s human nature. There’s animosity and there’s envy, and, oh, my God, this reader lineage is crap for them, and this and the other. So there’s a lot. I call it my Nadi, what goes on behind the scenes, the Brazilian novelas, the telenovelas, the drama, the Nadi drama, Nadi saga that goes on. It’s a lot going on behind the But yes, if they’re friends, they easily share. It’s like borrowing a book from a Western people from a public library. You have to return it at some point. You cannot just go to a library and say, Okay, I like this book. You take it. Maybe to some of the younger audience, they don’t even know what a book is anymore. But I grew up with books, and it gives away my age. I like a physical book in my hand. I’m not into computers or reading an electronic book. So you got to return it again.

That’s just the way it is. And the same thing is with us. Once we find a bundle and bring it back to the office and say, Congratulations, Amy, we found your bundle, you have two months to pay and book your reading. Otherwise, we have to give it back. Okay? So that is about the search part. That’s part one is a search. You submit your thumbprint, they go on a search, you bring them back to the office. If you’re in India and you’re lucky, they find it up after a couple of days, they see it come back in a week. Anyway, they bring it there, and then you will go to their office, or in our case, we do it online. We send you the good news, and congratulations, we found your bundle. In our case, matching and reading is done over Zoom like we do today. If you were in India, you would go into the reader’s office and it would do it one on one sitting across the desk, matching and reading. What does matching mean? Matching means the reader opens up the bundle like I did before and then tries to find your actual leaf with your name on it.

Don’t forget, the reader knows nothing about you. All he knows about you is that you’re male or female, which country you were born in, because it makes it easier to find the bundles within the whole stack of them. We’re talking tens of thousands of bundles, not just one or two or 100 or 5,000. We’re talking a lot of them. For him, to pick first time the right bundle to have a successful matching is, to me still, after a thousand and thousand readings, mind-blowing. So he brings it to the office because he thinks that’s a divine act, really. He’s like, Yeah, this could be, yeah. And then, No, this one. And then takes this one, brings it back to the office. And 90 plus % of the time, the leaf is in it. Out of all of them, he picks the right one. It’s just, to me, still an amazing-It’s so incredible. It’s incredible, yeah. So matching, so that would be step two, in our case on Zoom. He opens up the bundle, looks at the leaf, and then reads out to you a statement. Not a question, a statement. Whatever statement catches his eye to be the most important on the leaf, he reads out.

For example, you’re married. This leave belongs to a person who is married. And if you are married that moment, you will say yes. If you’re not married, you say no. If you say no to a statement, it’s not your leave, he flips over to the next one. If you say yes, he stays on the leave and goes deeper. There is the only answer you ever need to give to a statement is yes, no, right, wrong, correct, incorrect. That’s it. Nothing more. As an example, let’s say you are going through a divorce at the time of your matching and the reader says, Oh, you are married. You still need to say yes because you’re still married at the time, but no need to say, I’m married, but I’m going through a divorce. That’s irrelevant. Cool? So for as long as you say yes, he stays on it and goes deeper and deeper and deeper until you say yes to every single statement, and boom, like magic, he says, and it’s delivered to you in a sing-song way, by the way. I don’t speak Tama. Yes. But I know the training of the readers. It’s delivered to you on purpose in a sing-song way because the voice carries healing elements, and the entire experience is meant to be a healing experience for the seeker, too.

It’s the vibrations in it. In reality, you tell me if I overwhelm your audience, it’s written as a poem, a conversation between And his wife, Parvati, back and forth. And that is how he desects and finds your actual leaf. So… Amy. Like, what? I’m sure you remember your own name, too?

It’s just mind-blowing. It’s the second you find your lead and all of the names that are accurate. And for me, it was my name, my mom’s name, my biological biological dads, because he’s not even in my life, and then my sister and my husband. It’s just mind-blowing.

Yes. What can I say? Amy knows because I just finished a reading with a gentleman. Incredible soul, really. Super energies he had. I helped him with it because he was a little more mature, too. And he told me the names so I could help him look at when the reader does his work. Then the reader told him his stepmother’s name, which I didn’t even know. Like, and then the stepmother’s name. He’s like, Oh, my God. I didn’t even think of her. I gave him my biological mother’s name, which the reader also told, but he also mentioned stepmother’s name because the biological mother is already passed on. Stepmother is still alive. And so this guy was blown away. I just finished the reading right before we started our conversation. In short, it’s the Maha Richies who, of course, at that time, a thousand years ago, said, How can we make sure that the seeker embraces the reading as a gift, as a guideline, as a compass for their life so they can create a better life trajectory for themselves. They said, It’s the human mind and ego. We need to satisfy that first. Hence, we need to be able to tell them something that they embrace and accept.

Oh, yeah, of course. They do not know my mother’s first name, my father’s first name, my husband’s first name, or wife, or ex-wife, or a deceased wife, or third wife. I had it all. I’m telling you, several readings where people were married not just once or twice, but five or six times. The reader told them the ex-husband wife’s name, too. They were like, Oh, my God, I’ve divorced a guy. I never thought I would ever hear his name again, and yet, boom, he’s on leave. It’s possible. Your date of birth, of course, your time of birth, your weekday of birth, whether you have any kids or not, any siblings or not, how many, gender. So you know all these things. So in short, it’s made for you to embrace the fact that, yes, this is my message for me. Matching process, I need to explain a little more, too, because to some people, they’re like, Oh, that’s just guesswork. He’s going to ask this and that, and then says, Okay, this does match, and then blah, and he’s just guessing it and comes up with the answer. It’s Far from reality, far from it. Leaf is written in a dead language, granta, as we established already, ancient Tamil.

Two, it’s written as a poem, not in prose. It would be awesome if it said, Oh, this leaf belongs to Amy. That would be fantastic, but it’s not working like that either. It’s Tamil and ancient Tamil. Both are a syllabic language, sound-based, not letter-based. If we had to convert Tamil to, in our case, English, it would have 247 letters, 247. Wow. The icing on the cake to be able to compress so much information about a human’s life, and you had it reading yourself, so you know what I’m talking about, onto one tiny leaf. You can only do so when you compress it and use symbols. It’s compressed. Hence, it needs to be decoded, and that requires a skilled reader Of course it does. Now, when it comes to the matching and having 247 letters in a sound-based language, the reader needs to know, hence you need to help the reader, which direction to decode it. A, E, I, O, or U is one symbol. In our case, it makes a difference if it’s Amy or Emy or Imy, right? So he will say, your name starts with an A, E, I, or U. If that’s correct, you say, yes, it does.

And then what is it? Is it an A, I, and then you tell the reader, it’s an A. So he knows which direction to decode it. That’s very important for people to understand. It is not easy. It’s not hocus-pocus. It’s not guesswork, but it needs to know how to interpret the symbol, and it requires your input. It’s as simple as that. 99% of everyone who gets a reading with us understands it, 1% doesn’t, and they’re super upset. It’s guesswork, you’re lying, you’re cheating. I said, No, we’re not. But here’s your money back. You have 100% money back guarantee for those who are not happy with the reading. But I’m always very open, very forthcoming with everything that’s involved in it. You need to help the reader how to interpret the symbol. It’s very important. G, J, K, L, M, or N is also one symbol, but it makes a big difference which one it is. He decodes it, and then once it’s decoded with every single reading, where thousands of and thousands, I can actually then mark you on the leaf your name and say, This is the A, that’s the M, and that’s the Y.

But we need to know how to interpret it because at the same time, it could be an I, N, and something else. But if we know, it’s, Look, it’s interpreted as A, M, and I. Hence, he said, Am, am, am, am, am, Which direction to take the leave? That’s the matching process. Then it’s congratulations, we found your leave. Now we move on to the third part. That will be your reading. Search is done, matching is done, now the reading. Your reading is based on three aspects, and it’s also very important. First and foremost, let’s start with that. I repeat again, Richie’s wrote these leaves to help you create a better life trajectory for yourself. Better, whatever better means to you. Even if it’s just curiosity and like, Oh, my God, I want to know just out of curiosity. It’s also fine enough. You don’t have to suffer from cancer and all the other nonsense that I suffer from to get a reading. Or you want to be curious, Will I ever have a family? Can I have a family? Or a job that is actually fulfilling or something like that. So better. That’s very important.

Two, it’s meant as a guideline and as a guideline only. Must not, under any circumstances, be taken verbating. It’s the biggest mistake you can do because that would take away power that You have and I have free will and choice. I’m very proud of it, man. I own all my mistakes. I said, No, I either did it through an action or inaction. But either way, I did it. I even go so far to say that we create the reality that we’re in to the core. I now, of course, at the time, I was too young and I had no love experience. But today as a 54 I’m telling you, I caused the cancer even though it had nothing to do with me. Absolutely nothing. I was a victim. A 16-year-old kid playing outside. The government, of course, warned us they stopped playing outdoors. You couldn’t drink any milk anymore, have any fruits from the bushes and stuff. But for how long do you do that? You cannot smell it, you cannot taste it. It’s a nuclear waste. None of that. I was to get cancer. Many others did not, but I did. I am 100% convinced, even that has nothing to do with me, I caused it myself.

It gives me I’m not a victim. Do you know what I mean? I’m not. I could now lie in bed and cry for the last 40 years, why me, all the pain and all of this and all the missed opportunities. I would have much rather be a physician today. Who cares? Problems and issues and blocks and hurdles and challenges are meant to be overcome. It’s not about avoiding them. That’s not what it really does. It’s how you overcome it and how you deal with it. If I can say that I, little me, not caused it, but in a way also caused the Persian Revolution, so we had to flee, so I could experience that. I caused the cancer myself because I’m in it. I’m in the equation. If I’m not in the equation, there is no cancer, there is no revolution. Do you know what I mean? Yes. So I caused it. Hence, I own it. Hence, I can decaus it. I can overcome it. If I say it has nothing to do with me, Cancer was pushed upon me. The revolution was pushed upon me. That means I’m a victim. I cannot do anything about it.

Nothing. But ever since the time when I realized, Oh, no, no, no, no, everything happens in here, I give myself the to change things, to move it in a direction. I don’t say it’s easy. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t say it’s easy. I suffer from a lot of pain, even today, but you don’t see it on my face. I can hardly do many, many moves. And yet I’m like, You know what? I caused it myself. For whatever reason, I needed to experience how it feels to be constantly in pain or how it feels to be in an ICU or whatever. A reading is a guideline and a compass. All it can do is is show you, look, this is a possible future for you from today’s point of view. Come and look with me into the future. Do you like it or not? You like it? Great. Now you need to create it for yourself to actually experience it. You don’t like it? Well, that means a lot of blocks. You were off course until now. In some readings, some people in the early days, I remember People got upset with me. It’s a fraud.

It’s a scam. It’s a terrible read. No, that was the best part. Terrible, terrible reading. I was like, I don’t understand. The reader is great. So I watched their reading. Three hours, somebody else’s reading, just watching to see what Why is it so terrible? And then I realized, my God, the reading is super awesome, super detailed. But they were told, You screwed up, man. You are not a saint. Your future is not, I don’t know. You’re not a millionaire. You cannot drive a Porsche. You first have to fix your life. And that’s what they didn’t like. They thought, Oh, I’m going to get a reading and I’m being told I’m an angel. Everything’s beautiful, dandy. I get a husband, wife, kids. No, how can you do that? You cannot screw up your life until now. And think everything will be different just because of reading. It can only show you the possible future. And if you screwed up until today, well, then the future will be challenging too. But the good news is they wrote these leaves to help you create a better life trajectory for yourself. That means for every block identified in your reading, there’s a remedy.

If you do it with all your hearts and with the right intentions, you can start, gradually shift the energies toward a more desirable, better future.

I want to add a little to that. Yeah, sure, of course. For our Sacred Awakening students, I teach people how to open the records and how to open the records for other people. And so they do readings, we do healings, depending on what level they do. And one of the things that’s really important that the guardians like to say about any type of reading, it’s where the perception of the person in that exact moment. And so how you perceive the information can be one way in that exact moment in a year from now, you can have a totally different understanding of the information. And it’s always amazing to me when you sit with something and then you’re like, oh, that’s what that meant. It’s so amazing. Then it’s so amazing And then it’s also don’t shoot the messenger, because sometimes people are, even though they think they’re ready, they’re not. But the thing that is most important is they are, because them getting mad about it is part of their experience with the healing and the journey and everything else. And maybe it’s the catalyst that allows them to have the true change that they’re seeking.

So I love that you’re sharing. It’s just to assist you in feeling better and not to take it verbatim.

Correct. Super, super important, yes. So reading not verbatim guideline, very important. And your reading is based on three aspects. Which I tell everyone and train every moderator that works for institute, is based on your thumb and category type. The thumb and category type is the secret to all of this. Without your thumb and category type, there is no reading. It’s your red thread in life. It’s your baseline. It’s what you came to this life in general terms to experience. Thumping category type explains a lot about you, and we explain your thumb and category type in detail in your reading. So that’s like you’re not changing constant in life. You’re anchored. The two other parts change all the time. Your energies change all the time. So the reading is based on the energies on the day of your reading, not That’s your mood. Whether you had coffee in the morning or not makes no difference. Fight with your husband or wife makes no difference. That’s your mood, your energies. According to our system, it changes every six months. It’s like a cycle. And three, it’s based on stars and planets, of course, because they have an impact on us, too.

The vehicle we use to tap into their message is Vedic Astralogy, Indian Astralogy. That means that the reader is also a fully-fledged Vedic Astrologist. It’s important to know as well because there are symbols on your leaf that refer to the stars and planets, and it needs to be able to decode that. Based on these three, reader looks at your leaf, says, Come here. I’m doing this metaphorically speaking, Come here. Together, we’re going to look into the future from today’s point of view, starting today, until there is no more writing on the leaf. No more writing on the leaf, some people are scared of that too, does not necessarily mean the end of your life. It’s just the end of the writing on the leaf. So that day, when you get a reading, your reading stops at age 79. I’m just making this up. It was actually my reading. 77 to 79, he said, you’ll get a heart attack and die. I was stunned because of the accuracy because I had just come out of ICU with major heart issues. If you ask me as a human being, how do you think you’re going to die?

Is either cancer going to come back or the permanent damage that the microdieter has done to my heart, still today, too. I’m not the same person that I was 12 years ago. Got a heart attack. I was like, wow, this guy knows what he’s talking about because I did not tell him that I just came out of an ICU to get a reading to overcome karma. But I also knew it cannot be set in stone. It cannot. It’s just from that day’s point of view and the energies that I had, I could see another 30 years ahead of me. But I had a second reading. In the second reading, and I did all the pujas verbatim, and that’s very important, I followed them to the dot. Second reading, you could see, Oh, I can see till 84, and no heart issues. That might be the end of your life. You can change your life’s trajectory for the better. You can. If you’re crazy enough, and I say this tongue in cheek, crazy enough wanting to live longer, because I tell you, not me, I’m done, I’m happy when it’s over, then of course, you can work on it.

Being human is hard. Being human is very hard. It’s not so easy at all. You can work on that, too. Based on these three, he looks at it and gives you the good, the the Bad and the ugly. It’s a whole life reading what we do, what we call a whole life reading. We cover all 14 chapters on a leaf, all 14. Karmic chapter, your Remedy chapter, which is the most important chapter reading, your Health chapter, Family chapter, you name it, all of it. It gives you the good, the bad, and the ugly. All is important for the audience to understand, to help them awake a little bit with Amy’s help. A reading is not meant to make you feel cool, special, chosen, I don’t know, whatever. It’s not. It’s hence also not sugar-coated. It’s meant to help you create a better life trajectory. If you were, mind my French, an F up until the reading, partying, drugs, I don’t know, whatever, you cannot just get a reading and be told, Oh, everything’s dandy. You’re going to be an angel and a healer from now on. You won’t. You first have to clean up your act, change the energies, and then after some time, because it takes time to change the energies, you cannot F about for the last 20 years and think overnight, you can change everything.

You got to still invest some energy and time into it, and then create a life trajectory in a more desirable direction. It gives you the good, the bad in the other. What does good mean? Good means a good time period for X, getting married, having a child, expanding the business, move, whatever. Whether you utilize it or not is up to you. Whether you actually sit down and write a book or not is up to you. The universe opens its gates for you. Now is a good time. It tells you between the age of 41 and 51, 49 and 51, move or write a book or whatever. Either you utilize Is it or not, you get free one in choice. So all you can do is look, the universe will help you at the time. If it’s bad or ugly, embrace it with all your heart as a blessing in disguise. I tell everyone because that means there is a block. If it’s bad or ugly, it’s a block. Money block, relationship block, child block, karmic block, planetary block, whatever. The block was with you until the reading, too. You were hitting a wall all the time, just not knowing why am I in terrible relationships?

How come I cannot have a kid? How come I’m being abused? How come my jobs suck? How come I have all these financial issues? Fisha cycle. Blocks. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you have a karmic block or you have a planetary block or a generational block. To some, it’s a shocker because they have many blocks, not just one or two. They’re like, Oh, it’s a terrible reading. It’s so negative. It’s beautiful. Say, Oh, my God, thank you. Because now you know there are blocks in your life. And the great news is the most powerful part of your reading are the remedies. They did it on purpose. They show you the blocks and they tell you exactly what to do to help you overcome the blocks. All you got to do is just follow them verbatim because the only part of the reading that you must take verbatim are the remedy parts called pujas. Pujas means literally translated prayer ceremony or ceremonial act. So you either do some mantra or you need to do something physically, like bring food to the needy or eat a cow or something physical. And those come in a set format.

You got to follow them exactly as prescribed, the first one, then the second one, then the third one, and this and that, the other. It’s nothing Earth-shattering. It really isn’t. Anyone can sit on eight Saturdays in a row and meditate to Lordiva or Hanuman, usually on a Saturday, or something like that, or every full moon for five full moons, or every new moon, or any whatever. It’s not long. It takes you five minutes, but it is your commitment to actually do it on the day prescribed, exactly as told to sit in silence, go deep within, focus on the healing with all your heart and the intention to overcome the block it was prescribed for, for five full moon days in I mean, how easy? I mean, it’s super easy. You just got to commit yourself. And that’s the only part in a reading that must be taken verbating. No wiggle room. You cannot say, Oh, I don’t like the full Monday here. I do rather this first. No, exactly. Oh, but it’s going to take me a year and a half. It’s like, Man, you’ve been effing up for the last 20 years, and now you want this to be done in one month.

No, you’re going to put some effort into it. If you do it, I also tell everyone in all the talks, if you really do it with your heart, you show the universe, oh, my God, Amy is really serious about it, so we’re going to help her. Things, very soon, will become easier and easier, and easier. You will see, very soon, that things will Start shifting because you did it with all the heart and intention to overcome the blocks identified. That’s my two cents to everyone who wants to get a reading. Take the puja’s verbatim, do it with all your hearts and dedication, and make it trust the universe that you will be helped and things will start changing. So that’s the last chapter. I can go very deep, too. I can talk many more things. I just want to make sure that I am also conscious of the awakening crowd.

Yeah, no problem. I have a question. Why would someone want to do a second reading? What would be the benefit of that? And what is different from the first reading versus the second reading?

We had many people who had many readings with us and also from Conscious Life Expo. So my first reading, I tell you my personal motivation, too. So my first reading The first reading, of course, was, I didn’t want to be in hospital anymore. I want to overcome karma. Then so I had the reading and the guy told me, Oh, you’re going to bring this to the West, which I, of course, did not take seriously. Trust me, I did not. I had no intentions whatsoever to bring this to the West. But then, of course, three years later, maybe or four years later, this was already established, the institute. I had a second reading because I was curious. What’s in there for me? The second reading picks up on the energies at the time of the reading, and it reflects the reality that you’re in then. In my first reading, he told me, you’re going to bring this to the West. I wasn’t forced I was doing it, don’t get me wrong. I wasn’t forced. It was free will. But I remember distinctly second reading, sitting across the reader, and when he did the matching with me, so he’s looking at me, and then He sees a white guy sitting across from him, and then the interpreter…

He doesn’t speak English, but shortness on it. And then he looks at the leaf, he looks at me, and then he says, You are doing this. He couldn’t believe it because he was confused. It was a statement with a question mark, You are doing this, because he couldn’t fathom a white guy being involved in this. I said, Well, I cannot read, but I have an institute now that does this. I was like, My God, it’s in my freaking leaf already that I’m doing this. It’s amazing. Things just… It It kicks up. Really, you can have, I’m exaggerating now. You can have 100 readings because the ultimate goal is every single time to make it a better life trajectory. Better, better, better, better. If I may, since you asked the question, if I may just step back for a little bit to help your audience, Awaken even a little more. I love the term Awakening with Amy. It’s a great name. These rishis, you’re an Akashic record expert, so you know, these rishis wrote these leaves to help humanity at large, not just the individual Amy and Dr. Q, humanity at large, to come through, get through Kali yoga better.

I presume you know, but maybe the audience does not know. We have four yugas. These are Y-U-G-A. So four huge time periods. And in an analogy, winter, spring, summer, and fall. And Kali Yuga, K-A-L-I, is winter. So now, for thousands of years already, humanity, like souls, have been in winter. That means dark times. And we are now, people say, those that know better than I do, we are at the tail end of it. So these grishes said, how can we help humanity get these dark times a little better? Because the definition of Kali yoga is that only 25% of souls are on the righteous path. 75, Dharma. 75% are not. They indulge in drugs, sex and rock and roll, and I don’t know, money, power, abuse, I don’t know, crazy, crazy things. 25% are inclined to be on the righteous path. So a minority, 75% are not. All they’re looking for is either fun, abuse, I don’t know, whatever. And so 25% of humanity has to schlep 75% through these dark times, and it’s a very difficult task to do. So these riches said, We want to help those 25% to create a better life trajectory for themselves so that in turn, they can help those that are in darkness, not on the righteous path, to get through these dark times and maybe bring some of them onto the righteous path.

And since we’re now at the tail end of it, some people say 30 years from now, but I don’t think so. Some say 100 years, 200 years. It’s not thousands of years anymore because each one of these yugas last thousands of years. We will shift from winter to spring. That That means, bang, overnight, 50% of humanity is on the righteous path. It makes a big difference. Boom. Then eventually, we get back to the beautiful times where almost everyone is on the righteous path, but there is no need for… There is no poverty, there is no starvation, there is no power games, there is no nonsense. We live in harmony. Until again, the whole thing starts again from the beginning, and it’s a cycle. For the listeners, they wrote them to help humanity, those on the righteous path called karma, Dharma, get through it easier, create a better life for themselves so they can help humanity at large to get through these dark times. So just step back a little bit to give a bigger picture to that. And if you wish, we can go just a little deeper. Yeah, let’s go. Because people ask me, how does Does it all happen?

In my world, everything is energy. Really, it is. It’s manifested differently. Of course, my laptop is energy, too. Our conversation, or the Zoom program is also energy. Money is energy, and sickness is energy. All of it is energy. The most perfect curve is the sine curve. That is known in science, it is the most perfect curve. If frequencies were only sine curves, I think we’d all be angels with wings and sitting at a beach somewhere in moksa. Moksa is liberation. That is the ultimate goal, by the way, that we all want to reach. After many, many life cycles. That is also a reason why these riches wrote them, so you can reach Malksha. If all was a sine curve, there would be only bliss. There would. But we’re far from it. We’re humans. In your own lives, you have noticed if something is off, like you get sick, like in my case, sick, or you have a car accident, or money doesn’t flow, or relationship issues, that means you are further away from being a sine curve. The more away you are, the more screwed up that curve is, the more screwed up either your entire life is or parts of it are.

So all this energy. The pujas curves, which in Western terminology, I translate as being an energy shifting exercise, they help you bring those back again to as close as possible. You cannot get to being in a sine curve, but as close as possible to a sine curve. As you are getting closer to the sine curve, you start attracting things, frequencies that are also closer to a sine curve. If yours is like this, there is no way you attract something that’s like this. The more you’re like this, you attract more experiences, if you wish, that are like that. So that means your prongs and your sockets change, and you find sockets that match your new frequency. And as that happens, calmer, more focused, more fulfilling, you steer the ship in the direction that you want, and that’s what the puja just help you with. So if everything is energy and time, I also don’t believe in time. Can I prove it? No, I cannot. I’m just human being, but I know so because I’ve been had enough experiences in my life to know the time, the way we perceive. I don’t think so. There is no past, present, and future.

I’m pretty convinced it all happens at the same time. Otherwise, you cannot go into the Akashic records. Otherwise, it wouldn’t exist at all. So it all happens at the same time. But for our little brains and human experience, there is a past, present, and future. Otherwise, we couldn’t cope with it. If there is no time the way we were taught by society, the time is, that means everything is like one big blob, boom, right here. We only get to experience one microsecond of it at a time, and that’s one after another, and that is why we have time. If everything happens at the same time, that means these Maharishees, 7,000 years ago, 5,000 3,000 years ago, at the same time when you needed help by manifesting that wish, everything is a thought, I realized it, too, in my journey, without a thought, there is nothing. There isn’t. If you cannot put a word to it in there, you don’t have to speak it, then it doesn’t exist at all. It’s not even there. But then we say, oh, Apple, glass, iPhone, and there is a word in it, all of a sudden it exists. But if you don’t have anything to name it, and if you’re in that state of mind, either with shamanic help or just pure focus and meditation, which I’ve been able to reach with both, with and without help, not easy, I understand.

Then you become one with the universe. You do. Then you realize, Oh, my God, it all happens in here. If I can put a word to it, it becomes reality. If I cannot, then I have no thinking at all. That’s the aim of all these to not think at all. When you can stop thinking, you become the universe. When you have a thought of needing help, and it actually anchors in there, like my girlfriend told me this, and it went through about second time, it actually stayed in there. It became a thought. Then I manifested that thought, and I submitted my thumbprint. It’s an action. It came from here to outside of in my realm. And that moment when I said, Now I’m committed, I need guidance. At the same time, 3,000 years ago, Augustre started to write the message for me. Pretty cool, huh?

So you did that. So neat.

And it comes to you. And now I go even deeper. If there is no time, I mean, to some of you might be a little crazy what I say, but that’s truly what I believe. At the same time, if there is no time, and if you You did go very deep and you can reach the moment. Not easy. I only reach it a few split seconds for a few times. There is no thought. You know that you’re one with everything else, too. You’re one. But our brains are so small and cannot cope with it, so we need to have the separation to be able to experience human experiences. But if you go there, no wonder, now that I’m an older guy, I understand why all these people, these hermets, wanted to be with John and just focus and become one with the universe because you can. You become one with everything else, too. All the universes and all the humans and animals and all of it is one. That means The moment you submit your thumbprint, 3,000 years ago, at the same time, you yourself, as at the time, Mahrisha Gasthyaar, says, Oh, when I’m there as Amy, I’m going to give myself help now and give yourself help.

Really neat to think about.

It’s huge. I know.

It’s gigantic because I often have this If you think about it, because we’ll do past life regressions, they’re in the future. Well, they’re in the past and we’re in the future, and we’re visiting all at the same time. So is it really the past? Is it really the future? It’s It’s just one. And it’s fascinating to wrap your head around. I know. And put languaging around it.

Yes, correct. It’s true. Absolutely. I know. Trust me, it took me decades to come to this conclusion. It didn’t happen overnight. I had to experience it and suffer through it, too, until I was like, Oh, my God. Yes, of course. Otherwise, this wouldn’t work at all. There cannot be time the way we perceive time. There cannot be reality, whatever who knows? That’s one of the reasons why I try to be as respectful as I can to every single human being, because I know you and I are the same, really. We’re just in different physical forms. Warm, but deep down, you and I are the same. How can I abuse you or be unethical to you? Because then I’m unethical to myself. That’s a very, very very, very deep, deep, deep, deep rabbit hole that took me 40 years to get there. But when you can see it through these eyes, then it all makes sense. Then you can embrace the message so much easier and help you create a better life for yourself and in turn, help others lead a better life for themselves so that this whole crazy thing that we call reality and life the human race becomes a tiny little bit more bearable and better.

I love it. I do have a question about karma and curses. So when it comes to getting a reading, someone could… Well, we all have karma, and so we’re clearing the karma. So there’s that. When it comes to a reading, there can be curses, and we’ll just label it bad karma, putting that in quotations, that we’re clearing. Can you talk a little bit about that and why someone would want to clear that or why someone might want to discover if they have… I don’t like using the word curse, but it’s easy for people to wrap their heads around. Why someone might want to look at that.

First of all, allow me to explain what karma is. People, when they hear karma, they think, Oh, it’s bad. No. Karma is just something that you took from a past life to this life. It can be good, too. People forget that. If you have lots of good karma. You have lots of good karma. I’m using an analogy. You’re driving with your convertible Porsche on a German highway because you can drive as fast as you want. You just don’t notice that that’s Good karma because you’re like, Oh, my God, I got the money, I got this, so I can drive a Porsche on a German Autobahn. So that is not addressed in a reading because it does not need healing. You, as a human being who has been blessed with health, like a strong body, healthy body, I don’t know, good friends, good parents, oh, my God, that’s a gift in itself that are actually guiding you, supporting you, paying for education. I don’t know. There’s so many things that we just take for granted. There’s one parents, of course, they need to. No, they don’t. They don’t. They do it. So that’s good karma. I say, Thank you very much that I have such beautiful parents.

So all the good things that we take for granted is your good karma. And we don’t even waste second on it saying, Thank you, that I was blessed with that. We always focus on the negative parts. So karma can be both good and bad in your everyday life. And there is small karma, negative karma, and strong negative karma, of course, too. And according to our system, you, any human, by default, actually, can overcome small negative karma if you do good things. Period. If you’re a teacher, a firefighter, a police officer, a nurse, a physician, so in a servicing environment, doing it ethically, mind you. So you can still be an ass and a physician or something, you’re corrupt, whatever. If you do it ethically and you are already in a servicing environment, then you can overcome a lot of your karma because you help others. People People always ask me, too, Man, you can make it millions with doing healing work. I don’t care. I’m happy for you. Everyone should make millions, and we wouldn’t have any jealousy and greed on this planet at all. If everyone make a lot of money. As long as you do it ethically, that’s all I’m asking for.

Just do it ethically. Just screw anyone over. Do it ethically. Don’t overprice people. And you make still millions. Beautiful. Oh, my God, I’m so happy for you. But some of the karma, you need know what happens. It’s bigger. So that is why I’m sure you do it, too, in your healing work, you take them into past lives. And the reading does, too. So one chapter of a leaf is dedicated to past life karma. A few have no past life karma, and that is those souls who voluntarily came back as a human after having finished their mandatory life cycles, however many thousands of them there were, and now they reach makshal, and that’s the ultimate goal for a soul. Maksha means liberation. They’re there, kicking back, toes in sand, sipping their pinnacleadas, and they get bored. Then after a while, they say, Oh, my God. They look down and see a bunch of stupid things, beings that we call humans. They need my help. They need to go back. They voluntarily came back. Big difference. Everyone else is mandatory here. We don’t want to be here, but we still are. As we do, we will get hopefully better and better and better as souls.

But they voluntarily come back, these idiots. I’m very tongue in cheek because I know quite a few of them, too. Reverend Bill McDonald is one of them, and he’s a big supporter of our cause, and he’s in Sacramento, and he’s one of them. He had anything but an easy life. Vietnam War, Aaron was exposed to Agent Orange, many surgeries, but a beautiful soul. I love him very much. He became a very dear friend, and I only met him through a reading, reading, just like I met you two. I meet a lot of beautiful souls. I know because I was in his reading, too, and he came back voluntarily as a so-called remoxet, soul or time traveler. And those people is identified on the leap. It says, You are remoxet, you’re a time traveler. And those souls cannot have karma because they came from Maksha, and hence their karma chapter is empty. Everyone else has karma, bigger, smaller, whatever. And you need to be aware of it. Why? What you did, at least in public readings, it tells you who you were, male, female, where you lived, and what time period, and what you did to create the karma that you’re in now.

Because karma is just like any other block. It could be planet It could be a monetary block, it could be a generational block, family block, or it could be a karma block. So you took with you a block that bothers you. Now your entire life could be bigger or smaller. It could be health issues, like major health, like in my case, or even worse, there’s much worse than mine, too. To money issues, relationship issues. You always end up in the same vicious cycle and you just do not know why. Why am I always ending up with the wrong person? Or why am I always running up in a job that doesn’t pay enough? Or whatever the issue might be. Then the reader tells you, Yeah, you did X, and that is why now you carry the karma with you. But good news is there is a puja for it. That’s the good news. So you should embrace it. Oh, my God, now I know. Thank you so much. And you put all your heart and soul into it. You do the puja. And with that, you can shift the energies and the karma is gone because you changed the flow of energies and brought it back to as closest to a sine curve as possible.

And that’s where you want to know what your car, mom.

I love that. Thank you so much for sharing. How can people get a reading if they want to get a reading from me?

Sure. Thank you. Well, our website is indianpalmleafreading. Com. Easy. Indianpalmleafreading. Com. We’re also on social media, Facebook, Indian Palm Reader, Instagram, Indian Palm Reef reading, YouTube. Oh, by the way, you can go to a YouTube channel. That might be of interest to you, too, Amy. Indian Palm Reef reading Institute. We have now a dozen, give or take, quite a few, seekers who were so kind, allowing us to put their entire reading on our YouTube channel. Wow. We share it with everyone. You have three, four hours of one reading from the very beginning when we start with the matching process to the very end. Let me explain the pujas. You can just watch. Erica Middlemiss, maybe you know her. She comes to all the time. She was the very first one five, six years ago, said, Yeah, you can put mine on. I said, Really? Because I was shocked myself. It’s a very private, very personal thing. I said, I don’t have to hide anything. Yes, put it on. We recorded it for YouTube, and she has 100,000 views. And because people saw her video, now another 10, 12 people said, Put mine on, too. So folks out there, you can actually watch it.

You know exactly how it works in our institute and learn and and understand the reading process. So indiampalmerefeeding. Com is our website. The search, how you would start the whole thing is you go to your website, you click, I want to start the search for my bundle. You pay $100, $100 US$100 to be put on our waiting list. So you come to our waiting list, the $100 comes in the system. I have several ladies in the office that work for us. Then they will send you an email, say, saying, Thank you so much for the payment. You can already submit your thumbprint. They will send you a lengthy email explaining how to submit your thumbprint and an empty thumbprint form. You need to put it on there. We have a secure website. I pay good money for it. So you upload it through our website because some people are afraid about something in your thumbprint, which I totally understand. So it’s a secure website. You upload it through our system, and then the reader looks at it and says, Yes, I can use it. And with that, you will receive an email saying, Yes, we can use your thumbprint.

And now it’ll be moved from waiting list to next in-line list. And the next in-line, God knows how long it is 6-12 months. Don’t shoot me because I don’t know. Because we’re always getting new readers and new moderators and more of this and that. So I tried to cut it down as much as I can. It was already two years, the list, just to be on the next in line list before we actually started the search. I’m working on expanding it. Then when we have enough capacity, we send an email saying, Congratulations, Amy. Today, we moved you from the next in line to the active list. That means we start the search for your bundles. Got to be a little patient, 3-6 months. It could be one week. It could be one week, too. I do not know. But the average search is 3-6 months. But it has happened and it’s much faster, too. So I’m just letting you know.

Mine came in really fast. I was shocked. Yeah, and then my friends, they were much slower, and I was like, It’s coming. It’s your friend. It’s all good. It’s all good.

I do not know. So that’s the reason why I tell people, You got to wait six months, because I’d rather tell you, Wait six months, and you have it after a month, than me telling you, Oh, it can be two weeks, and then you wait for five months, and then you think I’m lying or not reliable. Because I do not know it all happens in divine timing. That’s just the way it is. Then when the bundles are found, we send you another email saying, Congratulations, we found your bundles, and now you can pay the remaining $400 for the reading. So $100 to start the process, $400 to get the reading. And then once you pay $400, you can choose what day and what time to get the reading. We have readings every day, seven days a week, minus maybe 20 days when the high holidays are in India, we cannot do it. But almost every day of the year, we have a reading, We have a roll a day, and we have two set times. It’s also important because we cater to a global audience. It’s either 12: 30 AM, that means very late at night, early morning, or 6: 30 AM, early morning East Coast time, so 12: 30 or 6: 30, or you convert it to West Coast time, that will be 9: 00…

Sorry, 6: 45 and 9: 45 PM. Corresponds 12: 45 9: 45 AM is 9: 45 PM, California time, or 3: 45 AM, California time. We realized over the years that these two set times, several readings at the same time, but these are two set times, we can cover the world because we have people from Australia, New Zealand, I don’t know, South Africa, all over Europe. With these two, we can cover it pretty okay, given the huge time zone difference with India. India is 11 hours ahead of where you are now. We need to keep all that in mind when we set it up. It’s over Zoom. We’ve recorded all. You get a beautifully edited recording of your reading, as you know, Amy. We use a chat function a lot, so you get a lot of information type for you. We take a picture of your leaf, too, and you get a high-resolution picture of your leaf. The original remains in a bundle and goes back to the archive where it came from. We do a huge puja PDF with the pictures of all the gods and goddesses. You really don’t have to think much. We do it for you.

All you need to do is just put your heart into it and get your pujas done. You know my social media, you know our website and how to sign up. There will be three people actually helping you. The reader who does not speak in English in my office in India, an interpreter who interprets from Tamil to English in my office in India, but also a moderator in the West, who I train personally, every single one of them, who helps you through the whole process. He or she is the person to hold your hand when you come online, say, Hello, welcome to the Indian Palma Reading Institute, and then help you through the whole process until the very end. So there’s actually three people in a reading so that you get the most out of your experience.

I love it. And for anybody that wants to do this, I will link everything in the show notes and in the description. It’s worth the wait. It’s absolutely worth the wait. And I still refer back to the chat notes. I think it’s the easiest thing to refer back to because you can refer back and look at it, and they break them down into ages on one of it. And I do want to share one more thing. I’m assuming this, but tell me if I’m correct. It doesn’t matter how old you are.

Yeah, it almost doesn’t matter how old you are. Thank you for letting me know. You need to be 16 years of age. Okay, perfect. Otherwise, you’re too young and there is no But in terms of if you’re 80, they can still possibly find a lead. We had people in their late 80s. The oldest was 90, 91. You can have a reading until It doesn’t matter. Only you need to be old enough. Old enough.

Yes, 16 and older. Perfect. I love that it’s 16 and older. Yeah, one of my friends was very nervous that you guys weren’t going to find her reading because of her age. I was like, No, they’re going to find it. They’re going to totally find it, which they did.

I’m sure you were many, many people in their hundreds, I mean, without exaggerating, hundreds in their 70s, so a lot, and dozens for sure. I do not know. I don’t keep track, but I know so because even though I’m not involved in the daily stuff of the institute, at least dozens in their 80s, so many. That’s amazing. You get a full reading. It’s very individualized since you’re addressing it, too. It will be of interest to the more mature soul. A reading reflects where you are in life. An 18-year-old also, of course, gets a whole life reading until they’re 80, 85, or whenever the reading stops. But he’s a kid. All they want to know is the next four, five, six years. Will I finish high in a school? Will I find a girlfriend, boyfriend? These things. At 30, you can tell they’re checking out gong. It’s a way into the future. A more mature person in the ’70s and ’80s, and I can tell so because I was the moderator of my own mom without the reader knowing that she’s my mom. I was just a random person helping a random woman with her reading.

Her reading, and she was 70-something when she had her reading. My mom is like the Uber mom. I love my mom. She’s a very caring, loving human being. To her, she already lived her life. To her, it wasn’t so important what they told her about her. She wanted to know about the boys, that’s me and my brother, and the grandchildren. Will there be any grandchildren? Because at the time, I didn’t have any kids. It was I’m not getting a reading for myself.

That’s fun.

And your older son will do this, and the younger son will do that. I was looking at my mom, I was like, Oh, my God, they know us so well, even though he had no I am in a relationship with this woman. They told my mom, accurately me as a person, accurately my brother as a person. He’s my best friend, don’t get me wrong, we are very close, but we’re different.

Of course. Yeah, of course.

We’re different. They told her exactly when my brother will… He didn’t do it himself then, but when she will have double hip surgery, not just single hip, double hip surgery surgery. At the time, she told my brother, he’s an orthopedic surgeon, of course, so he told my mom, Look, your hips are done. You need to change them. I said, No, no, no, no, no, paced, both at the same time, just as the reader told her, and about the twins that my brother will have, and holy moly, he had twins too. To her, the more mature you are, of course, your focus shifts from yourself to the next gen. It’s just normal. It’s just natural, in my opinion. She got a reading that was important to her because to her, the only thing that’s important are the two boys, like my brother and I, and the grandkids. So if you’re more mature, really, it will focus on what’s important for you in that stage of your life as a more mature person. That will be your kids and grandchildren, of course.

Beautiful. Is there anything else you’d like to share before we hop off?

Oh, my There’s so much I can talk to you about. I know. I don’t want to stress out the audience too much. I hope I didn’t bore them.

No, I loved the history lesson on everything.

It was too overwhelming, too. There is a lot to be shared. I’m writing a book, so I can already share that here. The first one ever done that, I know that through the research and the people that I know, it’s very deep because I get a lot of questions about a lot of stuff when it comes to Nadia readings, Nadia Shasra. I finally took the time over the past 12 years or so that I started to just write down and learn myself. Of course, I’m just an average guy. But I learned over the years and more and more and I put it all together. I tried to write it in as simple a way as possible so it’s not too overwhelming. It’s really almost done. All the nitty-gritty is done. I just need to put it in a way that people can read it. My big aim was to be done for the next year’s Conscious Life Expo. We will see. I’m focusing, so I’m saying good wishes, and hopefully I’ll be done then. And then you can have a look at it and see.

I’d love to read it and love to see what it is and love to have you back on to talk about it when that’s ready. Thank you.

Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. Thank you.

Thank you so much, Dr. Q. All right, my friends, I hope you enjoyed today’s episode. What was your big takeaway? Do you feel guided to do an Indian palm leaf reading? Is it not for you at this moment? Is it not for you at all? And I do want to share this. It’s okay if it’s not for you. I know for me, I have friends that are in the spiritual community and be like, Hey, look at this thing, or, Hey, And sometimes my body is like, no. And then sometimes my body is like, absolutely. Or sometimes my body, when I’m saying body, I mean intuition as well. My intuition will be like, yes, but not now. And so whatever the case is, trust your intuition. And if you’re interested in learning more, check out the show notes or the show description. All the links are in there. And please share this with a friend. And we will see you soon, my friend. Bye. Take care.