Episode 99: Soul Chats with Crystal Trevors

Amy
Hello everyone, and welcome to today’s show. I’m so excited you are here. We have a special Soul Chats today with Crystal Trevors. Crystal is the founder of Live Joy Coaching. She is an accredited transformational life and business coach, a Akashic Records consultant, and intuitive healing facilitator. Inspired by her own spiritual awakening, Crystal has built a series of coaching programs designed to teach women how to listen to themselves, body, mind, and spirit, shift their perspective about the world and their potential in it, and move forward towards living their most fulfilled life. All of her live joy programs are designed to support the spiritually curious and are used by many as a guide through the awakening process. With a beautiful blend of science and spirituality, Crystal encourages all of her clients to enter her programs with curiosity, open-mindedness, and willingness to look at all things from different perspectives. This was a really fun conversation that we had, Crystal and I. We talked about discernment, the awakening process, and what that looks like. We also talked about organized religion and trusting what it is that your soul is being guided to do and so much more. I’m so excited to share this soul chat with you, so let’s jump in.

Amy
Hi, Crystal. I’m so excited for you to be here today. How are you doing?

Crystal
I’m great. I’m happy to be here, too.

Amy
Awesome. I know you have a lot of clients that are going through a spiritual awakening. Can you share with our audience what that looks like for some people and how they can navigate it?

Crystal
Yeah, absolutely. I think that sometimes when you talk to people, they don’t really know that they’re having a spiritual awakening, or they’re just not aware of even what that looks like or feels like. What I find is a common theme is that they’re on this quest to find meaning in their life. There’s this awakening to find this meaning and purpose and this feeling that they were meant for more, and sometimes the feeling of being stuck in life. That’s probably the biggest common theme in my clientele.

Amy
When someone’s going through a spiritual awakening, they have this stuck feeling. I call it the feeling of something’s off, something’s missing, and they’re not really sure what that is, but they’re seeking, and they’re searching for something. What was your experience with your spiritual awakening?

Crystal
My spiritual awakening was extraordinary. It was fast and furious. I think I’m that example of the person that doesn’t listen, and you get the gentle nudge, and you get the little whisper, and you don’t listen, and you don’t listen, and the signs get louder, and you still don’t listen. And then, finally, you get hit over the head with the two-by-four with a message.

Crystal
So for me, in all honesty, I was going through, let’s say, a dark night of the soul. I was struggling with some challenges at the time, and I had prayed to God for guidance. If you’ve seen the movie, Eat, Pray, Love, and Julia Roberts is on the living room floor, and she’s praying for guidance, that was me. I just say I didn’t get a message to go back to bed. The message that I received was live joy. I heard it so clearly just there. I really didn’t understand who was speaking to me or what was going on. I didn’t know what the message meant; I didn’t know what I was supposed to do about it. I didn’t know how it was going to help the situation. But I knew pretty quickly, like the next day or thinking about it over the next 48 hours, that it was really a wake-up call.

Crystal
It was time for me to really take a look at my life and think about what would it be like to live joy? What does that look like? What does that feel like? And that really started my whole quest. I need to figure out what it means to live joy. So that’s how I got it.

Amy
What does that mean for you?

Crystal
I have come to learn that… Well, all the sayings, abundance is our birthright. We are all children of God. We are all children of the divine. And it’s our birthright to live joyful, abundant, fulfilled lives. And it’s really all that social conditioning that has led us to believe that… I’m going to say we’re not deserving, but it’s not a given, right? But the matter is that we are all meant to have joyful, fulfilled lives. I’ve also come to learn, and I say, Fulfillment is the guidepost that will lead you to where you need to be, where you’re meant to be. So if something feels good and it’s fulfilling, and it’s joyful, and it’s beautiful, you’re on the right path. We’re not meant to live lives of struggle and strife. We’re really not.

Amy
No, I don’t think so. I think you’re spot on with the fulfillment because if we are looking at areas of fulfillment, we have a better understanding of what’s going on and where we can increase our joy or increase our happiness, depending on the area where we’re lacking fulfillment.

Crystal
Yeah, absolutely. If you’re not a ten out of ten… In life coaching, people use these wheels of life and circles of fulfillment, and there are different categories of your life where you can sit down and reflect on, am I out of a ten? How fulfilled am I in spirituality or my career, or my family? And if you’re not a ten out of ten on every spoke of that wheel, there’s something blocking you. Achieving ten out of ten or achieving abundance in that area. So it is a really good cue as to where you have healing, you need healing, or that you could be exploring more.

Amy
And what advice would you give someone if they’re not a 10 out of ten? How do they even start approaching being coming fulfilled in that area? Because sometimes if you’re, let’s say, lacking in relationships and you’re, let’s say, a four out of 10, but you don’t even know where to begin, what advice would you give someone to increase that level of fulfillment?

Crystal
That’s a great question. Again, I know you would agree everything is energy. The same when you think about that circle of fulfillment; I find a lot of my clients have this experience where if you try to put a concentrated effort into improving one area of your life, another area of your life. Gets sabotaged.

Amy
It starts to fall apart.

Crystal
Yeah, fall apart. So maybe you do have to make headway in finding a fulfilling relationship, and you lose your job, or it’s just like there’s this weird balance that happens. And because everything is energy, I think most people in Western cultures, at least, have never really learned how to expand their energy. So I say we need to expand our circle of fulfillment. We can’t just focus on one area. We need to learn how to work with energy and expand our energy. And the very, very first step that I know is the critical foundation to it all is learning to receive. Not everybody might agree. They’re like, Well, you got to release things to be able to receive things. I’m like, I know from my personal experience and what I’ve learned and what I’ve been teaching to my clients is the breath work, nourishment, drinking water, every action you take to nourish yourself, and we’ll say self-care, but self-compassion, you’re giving science to the universe that you are open to receiving. And once you’re open to receiving and you’ve mastered that, the next steps, releasing, transforming, creation, it all just flows so much easier.

Amy
So if someone’s having a hard time with receiving, what can they do to start being okay with receiving? Because most people, we all are very hard at receiving support or receiving in general or asking for support. So how would you suggest someone navigate that?

Crystal
Sure. So the first thing I would suggest is a little exercise in how open you are to receiving and just think about the last time somebody offered you a compliment or tried to give you a gift, and you feel awkward, right? Many of us feel awkward and uncomfortable if we’re given a compliment. That’s a sure sign that you’re resistant to receiving. Just become aware. Then it might be an unfamiliar feeling to be open to receiving, and it’s this process of, Okay, I’m aware, I’m feeling like this constriction, or I’m holding my breath, or I’m feeling awkward, right? I’m feeling this tension. Just breathe through it. The first thing is mastering this conscious breathing.

Crystal
Again, in Western cultures, we breathe just enough to sustain ourselves. We nourish ourselves to sustain ourselves, but really that conscious, purposeful breathing in, breathing out, the pure flow of it, you’re receiving that breath, that energy from the universe, and then you’re letting it out. In moments of resistance, I like to do self-compassion. I have a process that I follow where I do pull out if I suspect that there’s a wounded part or one of my bodies are feeling less than what it should be, and I send compassion to it.

Crystal
I am so sorry you’re feeling this way. I’m so sorry that you had this experience. There’s something magical about compassion, the energy of compassion. It just breaks through all that resistance and heaviness.

Amy
Yeah, I think it breaks the walls that we create for ourselves. We imprison ourselves. When we are feeling bad, and I love that you’re like, I give myself compassion. What a simple, easy thing to do, but it’s very hard for people to remind themselves to do that at that particular moment. But it literally frees us from the jail that we create or the isolation that we create for ourselves that’s causing us pain and causing us suffering. So I love that with the compassion.

Crystal
Yeah. For me, that was key. In a lot of my healing clients that I work with, I do experience this resistance to healing. We’ll find that wounded part, and we’re working, and we’re trying to understand the situation, but there’s this resistance. They don’t want to engage, and it’s just really hard to get their attention and take in a moment, slow down, send this compassion, this compassion energy over, and it just all of a sudden, it just changes the whole energy of the situation, and it opens it to healing.

Amy
It’s beautiful. Even if it’s not a drastic change, I think it brings in light, it brings in hope, and it softens the energy, which I think is really important.

Crystal
I like that. Soften the energy. I like that.

Amy
Your background isn’t super spiritual. It’s… You’re a scientist.

Crystal
Yes. I took a science degree at university. I have a Master of Science in Immunology and Molecular Biology. I’ve worked as a research scientist. I used to make fish vaccines.

Amy
Fish vaccines?

Crystal
I used to make fish vaccines.

Amy
What a fascinating thing to create.

Crystal
Yeah, fish get sick.

Amy
Yes, they do.

Crystal
I own another company besides my coaching company. I own a medical technology company called StepScan, and it’s been an amazing journey. But the spiritual awakening, of course, is leading me down a different path. I run both businesses right now, but really the mid-term goal and the short-term goal is to transition out of my med tech business, so I can spend more time coaching and doing the spiritual healings that I just absolutely love doing. I love that. It’s a huge shift for me. Big shift.

Amy
Yeah, big transitions.

Crystal
Yeah. And in hindsight, I look back, and people are like, Well, when’s the first time you really realized that you had any of your clairs ticking or anything? And I always say I grew up Catholic, and I remember being in catechism class, and I remember the teacher saying just stuff about God, the traditional Catholic, you got to obey, and you got to obey your parents. I just remember thinking, He’s got it all wrong. God is loving. God would never do or put any of these burdens on us that they were talking about. I might have been 10 years old. I don’t really know what to do with the information, but I remember that so clearly, just thinking, This guy’s got it all wrong. And then just going about my day, right?

Amy
Yeah. I mean, it was a big pivotal point for you in your life to remember an authority figure saying something that you knew wasn’t your truth. And I think that sometimes organized religion, because we do have a lot of people that have either come from organized religion and they’re on their spiritual path, or some people still practice organized religion. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with organized religion. The thing that I don’t like is when something doesn’t feel truthful for that person, and it goes against their own soul’s evolution, is where we get caught up. I love at 10 years old you clearly knew that that wasn’t your truth. I also agree I don’t think there’s a wrathful God. I just don’t. That’s not something I believe in. It’s not something I participate in because I believe that the universe serves you exactly what it is that you’re asking for. So if you want a wrathful God, there will be a wrathful God. If you want a loving, compassionate universe, the universe will give you that. We are meant to have bad experiences. When I mean bad experiences, I mean life challenging experiences, meaning we evolve from those experiences. So we learn, and we evolve, and we are able to move forward with whatever it is that we got out of that experience. But there’s nothing that’s about wrath that is meant to be punishing or harmful.

Crystal
I agree. And I know it’s possible, but I wish more people would understand that the pendulum doesn’t have to go that far. We don’t have to have duality. To experience love, you don’t have to go that far. Swing the pendulum all the way to the other side and have a horrible zero out of 10 experience to experience a 10 out of 10 experience. I just feel like there’s energetically that pendulum doesn’t need to swing that far. There’s balance. But a lot of people seem to expect or just anticipate that that is the way it works. So one of the things I really like to call a mistruth, I guess, is that the pendulum doesn’t have to suffer.

Amy
No, absolutely not. And I do think in terms of organized religion, there are some really beautiful messages that are supportive and they are truthful. And I’m going to just take what supports you and leave behind the rest. And the same thing for this podcast. Whatever supports you, take it. Whatever doesn’t feel right, leave it behind because it’s not meant for you in that particular moment, or it’s not meant for you ever. And that’s okay, too.

Crystal
And that’s the beauty of having a spiritual practice, isn’t it? Because your discernment, your ability to discern truth from something that’s not true to you, at least, becomes really clear. And it’s really beautiful to be able to just think about something and close your eyes and say, how true does this feel for me? No, this is not something that resonates with me, right? So you can discard it. And the things that resonate with you, you can keep and add to your toolbox.

Amy
But I think there are so many messages out there, so many messages out there around anything. It could be around food, it could be around diet; it could be around exercise. I mean, we’re constantly changing what is appropriate and what’s not appropriate based on research and data, or some person just making a video that went viral, and all of a sudden, people are starting to do these crazy things that are not healthy, or they are healthy, whatever it is based on the trend that’s happening. So it’s just fascinating. I think discernment, like you were saying, is really, really important.

Crystal
Yes. And that’s probably one of my favorite results for my own spiritual awakening is I say my bullshit button is operating at 100% right. Like, I just like, no, yes, no, doesn’t resonate. Yes, I’m pretty quick. And I mean, everybody has the ability. They just need to practice a bit. But that’s a bit of a…

Amy
And they have to be willing to follow through.

Crystal
Absolutely, right? We talk about divine timing, but yeah, again, even discerning the timing of something, right? Is the timing now, is the timing… Do I need to sit and reflect on this a little bit? Who does this impact? What am I going to do with this? What’s the outcome? There’s so much you can do with it.

Amy
With discernment, you’re getting yes, no, yes, do that. And then there’s the discernment and the opportunity to follow through on that guidance that you’re getting, too. Because if you don’t follow through, because sometimes people get so confused, like, I’m getting a no on this, but I really want to do it. Well, there are a million reasons why you might be getting a no on it, and some of them you might not be considering why you’re getting a no on it. I think that that’s really important, too, as a part of our awakening processes, having that trust and I’m getting their no, let’s not do that, or I’m getting a yes, let’s jump in.

Crystal
Yeah, and it goes the other way, too. So there was one other significant message I received, and it was a couple of years ago now, and I’m only taking action on it today, like now, was sell your business.

Amy
Yeah. And that’s scary.

Crystal
Right. And I thought, why would I do that? So not knowing at the time that I was going to open the slip and try coaching business and how fulfilling that would be. Not that the other part wasn’t. It’s just I feel like maybe I’ve outgrown it. And so I have hired a firm to take that company to market. So that’s really exciting. Maybe last year, because I didn’t have enough clarity about where I was headed at that moment. But I haven’t forgotten, I heard that message, and I wrote it down in my journal and just watching and waiting and seeing about the divine timing of things. And that is now.

Amy
That’s perfect. I think that we get messages, and sometimes it takes us a while to take action on them. And also, I think that there’s that where you might get a message that does not mean you take action on it immediately. Sometimes we do need to do our research or get our ducks in a row, depending on what that is. I think Spirit sometimes tells us like, hey, this is something to start to consider because I know for me, I’ve been told things, and it’s taken me four years or 10 years, or sometimes it only takes me one minute. So it just depends on what it is. But if you’re receiving guidance, it’s something to consider. And then, if you’re receiving guidance and you haven’t taken action on it, it’s something to reconsider if it’s still in alignment for you to do that. And definitely, Crystal, it’s in alignment for you to do.

Crystal
And where you’re going.

Amy
Yeah.

Crystal
And I think, too, like that message, like selling a business isn’t the same as selling a house. You don’t just hire a realtor and stick a sign on your lawn and show people. It’s just a completely different experience. It does require some planning and thought. So yeah, for sure.

Amy
And then there’s the piece of your blood, sweat, and tears that go into it.

Crystal
Yes, absolutely. Thank you for acknowledging that because, again, right. And I think there’s a traditional approach to these kinds of businesses that you start up. It’s a startup. You go to the row it, you scale it, you exit, and you exit completely from the business. But another perspective, right? So that’s the beauty. I don’t have to sell my business to move into another business. Tons of people hire general managers to run their businesses, and they don’t actually work in operations. So it’s just all of a sudden, there was all these beautiful options that were available to me, and I could energetically tune into them and figure out which ones felt good, which ones didn’t feel good, and just be open to the possibilities.

Amy
Yeah. And I think that, too, part of it is we put blood, sweat, and tears into different projects in our life. And it could be work; it could be a house, it could be whatever. But then, at some point in time in your life, there’s going to be a time when that chapter closes. And some of us hang on to the chapter way longer than it wants to be open.

Amy
Some of us close it way sooner than it should be closed. And then there’s that sweet spot of closing the chapter when we’re guided to close it, even if there are tears involved. And so I love that you’re listening and you’re preparing to do that because, from my experience, something bigger and better is going to come from closing that chapter.

Crystal
Yes. There are bittersweet moments in life, right? And that’s not a bad thing. It’s change. It might be unfamiliar. It might be a little bit scary, but this is bittersweet for me.

Amy
Yeah. So what are you excited about moving into this year with coaching and the awakening? Where do you see the energy of the collective consciousness going, and how are you navigating that?

Crystal
Yeah. So I’ve been doing one on one coaching for a few years now and spiritual healings, and I’m ready to move into a group coaching format. So I have built a program. I am divinely guided to build a course. So I built the course, but then I decided I don’t really want to sell a course or I want to be a part of the journey of my clients. So it didn’t feel aligned to me to put a course online and let people run through it on their own without a lot of guidance. So it just did not feel right. So I’ve created this Spirit Joy group coaching program where the course is just in there as some core curriculum for them to work through, giving them that really good foundation. And then I am there. That’s where I’m hanging out. I’m hanging out. I call it the Linger Los Lounge. It’s a place where you can journey within. It’s a place where I can be there to support. I think that’s where I’m meant to be in this group, where I can hang out with women who are going through spiritual awakenings and maybe are confused.

Crystal
I just want this safe place. I didn’t have anybody until I met you, actually, Amy. My spiritual awakening was super confusing, and I had no background at all. I was really green, and I want anybody who’s maybe in the spiritual closet or having a spiritual awakening or feeling confused about who they are and who they’re meant to be to have a safe place where they can explore their authentic self. They can ask questions and just be lovingly guided through whatever they’re experiencing.

Amy
I love that you said it’s confusing. It really is confusing, especially when you’re going through that dark night of the soul. When you’re going through the dark night of the soul, what happens is you start seeing things from a completely different perspective, and that can mess up your world, mess it up in such a beautiful, chaotic way. But it really has you questioning what is true and what is not true because that’s part of the dark night of the soul is understanding truth. I love that you created this. I know you have a free masterclass. We will have the link to your free masterclass in our show notes or descriptions on our website. We have everything on the website for our blog for the show. So, you can go to the website for that, click the links in the description, or show notes. Tell everybody what the free masterclass is.

Crystal
Okay, sure. I put together a masterclass with the intent of letting people know who I am and, my approach to coaching, my approach to spirituality. Based on my belief that, again, we are all children of the divine, and what we deserve in life is complete fulfillment and abundance. So the masterclass is about how to create a fulfilled life. You’re always destined to live because we have all been destined to live fulfilled, joyful lives. So there’s a blend of life coaching and a blend of spirituality and psychology that definitely talks about energy medicine and just how to incorporate those things into your life so that you can be open to creating a better life for yourself.

Amy
I love that. So if you guys are interested in joining the free masterclass, the link is on our website, theamyrobeson.com/podcast. You can find the episode blog, or you’ll find it in the show notes as well to sign up for the free masterclass. Well, Crystal, it was so nice chatting with you today. I so appreciate you coming on and sharing about your awakening and everything else we chatted about today.

Crystal
Time flies, doesn’t it?

Amy
It does. All right, everyone, I hope you enjoyed today’s episode. Make sure you like and subscribe, and we will see you soon. Take care. Bye.

Crystal
Bye.